Cleveland Landmarks Commission

Cleveland Landmarks Commission
Development

Thursday, Nov. 10, 2022
9:00 a.m. — 11:00 a.m. EST

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Cleveland, OH 44115 (Directions)

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The Cleveland Landmarks Commission is responsible for determining whether buildings, sites or historic districts are eligible for designation as landmarks.

The Commission follows established criteria listed in the Landmarks Ordinance and uses the Secretary of the Interior’s Standards for Rehabilitation to review proposed changes.

Through the issuance of Certificates of Appropriateness the Commission reviews building and demolition permits for Designated Cleveland Landmarks and Districts.

Local Design Review Committees act as advisory committees to the Landmarks Commission within designated historic districts.

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NOTE: This meeting could run as long as 3 hours.

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Reporting

Edited and summarized by the Cleveland - OH Documenters Team

Note-taking by Tina Scott

House of Blues looking to update facade

Live reporting by Gennifer Harding-Gosnell

House of Blues looking to update facade

Gennifer Harding-Gosnell

Good morning, #Cleveland! I’ll be tweeting out today’s Cleveland Landmarks Commission meeting for @cledocumenters at 9 am. Here’s the meeting stream on the Commission’s YouTube channel, you can watch for yourself here://twitter.com/hashtag/CLEdocumenters)

07:17 AM Nov 10, 2022 CST

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Think we got something wrong? Send any enquiries on the meeting or these tweets to @cledocumenters or email us at cledocumenters@gmail.com

Gennifer Harding-Gosnell @GenniferwithaG_ 3/48

Here’s the agenda, and cheers to whoever designs and writes this thing for the Landmarks Commission. The names & associations of each guest are listed in the agenda so the viewing public won’t have to guess who they are:
https://planning.clevelandohio.gov/landmark/agenda/2022/PDF/CLC-11-10-2022-AGENDA.pdf

Gennifer Harding-Gosnell @GenniferwithaG_ 4/48

This is cool, too. They also add a link to all the presentations that will be given. 😮
https://cleveland.documenters.org/documents/presentation-november-10-82795/

Gennifer Harding-Gosnell @GenniferwithaG_ 5/48

The first 6 cases are all for Certificates of Appropriateness, which always makes me giggle. I think the @CityofCleveland should also do Certificates of Appropriateness for people, you know half of us would never get to the table.👋🏻 https://t.co/ygllN6qwBI

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And we’re off! https://t.co/KrNKqI0lUr

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Scott Kapp of @HOBCleveland is explaining plans to update the facade on E. 4th St. https://t.co/gGYCC1yf5k

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Here’s an idea of what the 4th St. entrance will look like. https://t.co/iaqzEgK9jE

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We’re getting a history of the aesthetics of the area now from the Cleveland Restoration Society’s Jessica Beam. https://t.co/WXvcy3iQ4a

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Commission Chair Julie Trott asks for questions but there are none, just a few voices of support. The roll is called and the project is unanimously approved.

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The next project up is new signage for a West Side daycare. https://t.co/PH4qrC0k6G

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Here’s the Brooklyn Centre’s current signage rules to ensure the daycare’s sign meets these requirements including shape and color criteria. (didn’t know rules like that existed? 🤷🏻‍♀️) https://t.co/kc6ep306Fo

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This project is approved with the requirement that the sign be moved centrally over the door, not the whole windowspace.

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This is a home renovation and window installation on Franklin Blvd. https://t.co/MNKfJpXnSC

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Case #3, a home in the Ludlow Historic District on Becket Rd. has been withdrawn. No reason was given.

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@CityofCleveland Mgr. of Architecture & Site Development Carter Edman has concerns about the dark grey house colour, says it’s “trending now” but may be “a regrettable choice” in the future. https://t.co/sb9Yp5zEHn

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Commission member Michele Anderson agrees about the colour, says she has concerns about the dark grey being too drab. City Planner Karl Brunjes says the city will be working with the owner & renovators on selecting colours.

Gennifer Harding-Gosnell @GenniferwithaG_ 18/48

Here’s what the home looks like now. 👇🏻 https://t.co/AK9t6itssp

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The Commission unanimously approves the Franklin Blvd. project with conditions on the home railings and the final colour choice.

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The next project is a mural on the Shoreway Building on W. 76th St. https://t.co/IS4NxZmdK3

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Meet the artist who will be creating the mural. 👇🏻 https://t.co/sACeo0kJdh

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Here’s the proposed mural and it’s meaning. What do you think? https://t.co/RKJ1FL8PUG

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Several Commission members are speaking in support of this mural project, including Anderson and City Planning Director Joyce Huang.

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Adam Comer of J Roc Developments is explaining how the company addressed community concerns with renovations to the Shoreway Building for their final design submittal.

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For example, they added an indoor courtyard for residents & their dogs to help avoid added dog use of nearby neighbors’ green spaces. https://t.co/Y9RU9c0jNZ

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Here’s all the facade materials to be used: https://t.co/tSxNW1C6uJ

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And the parking has been moved underneath the building, resolving parking concerns for current residents on W. 76th and 78th.

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Commission member Allan Dreyer says he does not like the roof, and that it looks unfinished. https://t.co/hMicwbWe1x

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Anderson asks about a lake view as she feels that may be an incentive for people to move in, but the trees belong to the Metroparks, it would have to be their decision. https://t.co/yCxoEjcqWK

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Anderson says she’s hesitant to support this project because of the outside design, especially from the view of the Shoreway.

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@TBrancatelli is joining us from Florida & keeps losing his power. Why he’s hanging out in the middle of a hurricane, I have no clue. https://t.co/hF7eUnhgRH

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All Commissioners approve the design submittal except Anderson. The group will continue to work with City Planning on recommendations for traffic studies & to re-visit the roof design.

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The next project has a Concept Plan for review, a 6-unit apartment building on Ford Drive. https://t.co/hrIoMwWRit

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This is a new proposed design. Your thoughts? https://t.co/dyRcDqKUnB

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In closer detail… https://t.co/w2kr1bVpRe

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A cartoon version. 😂 https://t.co/OKIgV6BVut

Gennifer Harding-Gosnell @GenniferwithaG_ 37/48

@jackbranca what’s your boy doin’ in Florida? Y’all didn’t tell him there was a storm comin’?!?! 😂💨
https://twitter.com/GenniferwithaG_/status/1590737903604633600

Gennifer Harding-Gosnell @GenniferwithaG_ 38/48

Beam is now reading a summary of Hessler residents’ comments on this Ford Drive property. She’ll follow with a staff report and the design committee’s review. https://t.co/0nbevdOQ5g

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Commission Member Allan Dreyer opposes the Mansard roof. Ezra Koenig disagrees…

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Anderson has praise for parts of the design but has concerns about only 6 allotted parking spots, 1 for each unit, though each unit is a 3-bedroom. https://t.co/OvBWGTrv5h

Gennifer Harding-Gosnell @GenniferwithaG_ 41/48

Well damn.
Nobody likes the Mansard Roof but me. 😠

Gennifer Harding-Gosnell @GenniferwithaG_ 42/48

Huang wants to clarify if the concerns are conceptual and schematic or with the design. @TBrancatelli is explaining other discussions that will take place to ensure the building process does no harm to the area around it. https://t.co/E34zguPE6x

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Commission member Bob Strickland suggests “divorcing” the design and the attachment to the Ford Drive property and match it more to the buildings on Hessler.

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Commission member Jonathan Bonezzi says he hopes it’s helpful but thinks they should look at the project with fresh eyes, removing all the layers of conversation that have taken place & recognise that it is a new development.

Gennifer Harding-Gosnell @GenniferwithaG_ 45/48

Here’s what that space on Hessler Street looks like right now. https://t.co/lVjIdipGXw

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The Concept Plan review for Ford Dr. ends with developers back at the drawing board with recommendations from the Commission to re-visit the design & resolve other schematic concerns.

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Huang answers Strickland’s question, Commission meetings next year are expected to be in-person, but there will be other options. https://t.co/lh4lljVpfD

Gennifer Harding-Gosnell @GenniferwithaG_ 48/48

This concludes my coverage of the Cleveland Landmarks Commission meeting for #CLEDocumenters. For more coverage of local government happenings, visit our webpage at https://cleveland.documenters.org/reporting/

Agency Information

Cleveland Landmarks Commission

The Landmarks Commission is responsible for determining whether buildings, sites or historic districts are eligible for designation as landmarks. The Commission follows established criteria listed in the Landmarks Ordinance and uses the Secretary of the Interior’s Standards for Rehabilitation to review proposed changes. Through the issuance of Certificates of Appropriateness the Commission reviews building and demolition permits for Designated Cleveland Landmarks and Districts. Local Design Review Committees act as advisory committees to the Landmarks Commission within designated historic districts.

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